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very nice. appreciate that. i'm jimmy, i am the host of the show. thank you for watching. thank you for joining us at our election headquarters in hollywood where we just got finished watching the vice presidential debate between two men who couldn't be much more different. one of them called donald trump a reprehensible idiot who shouldn't be president. the other is tim walz. [ laughter ] walz and vance, they stuck to the issues. they showed each other a lot of respect. it was -- it was very boring. [ laughter ] i'll be honest. i like these better with trump, i really do. [ laughter ] i don't know that anyone's vote was changed tonight. watching a vice presidential debate, it's like taking your kids apple picking. about halfway through you're like, okay, you know what, should sounded like it was going to be fun, but what's the point? [ laughter ] it did help us to get to knot

candidates a little. it was weird to see tim walz being so serious. i kept expecting him to reach down to his podium and come up with a corn dog. [ laughter ] he had a serious haircut, too. it looked line somebody got out the flowby before the debate tonight. tim walz is a very likeable guy, very normal, which is a problem for fox news especially because he looks like all of their viewers. [ laughter ] they are now desperate to exploit any tiny bit of oddness they can conjure up. >> timmy was at the michigan/minnesota game saturday, hugged the gopher mascot like it was his husband returning home from war. [ audience moaning ] >> jimmy: you got him there. jesse waters must be a lot of fun at disney world with the kids, huh? "don't touch that mouse, bobby, the other boys will think you're gay." [ laughter ] there was a lot of pressure on j.d. vance tonight. j.d. vance hasn't been under a microscope like this since his wife asked him why the couch was

so sticky. [ laughter and meoans ] >> i want to answer the question, but i want to give introduction to myself a little bit. i recognize a lot of americans don't know who either one of us are. >> jimmy: that's how you get the single cad ladies back on your side. in some ways you can't help -- you kind of feel sympathy for j.d. vance, who you have to defend donald trump, who he himself openly denounced. kind of like being diddy's defense attorney. i was a little worried about tim walz going into the debate. i got an email from his wife today asking me for money. i hope they're okay. there are the walzs reriving in new york this morning. he's extra fired up because he got a free ramekin of khex mix on the plane. [ laughter ] wallz got ready for tonight's

matchup with a series of mock debates. they had stand-ins for the moderators and pete buttigieg played j.d. vance. he must hate the idea that a gay man was playing him. [ laughter ] and wearing less eyeliner than he does, too. [ laughter ] [ applause ] you know, it's difficult to prepare for debate in general, it's especially difficult when the other guy might blurt out that puerto ricans are poisoning our halloween candy, or women shouldn't be allowed to swim during menstruation. [ laughter ] he didn't do either of those things. both candidates were pretty darn polite to each other. >> tim said something i agree with. i agree, i actually agree with you. i agree with tim walz. governor, i agree with you. i agree with that. i think governor walz and i actually agree. >> jimmy: trump is not going to like that at all. [ laughter ] you're in a lot of trouble, j.d. i was kind of hoping they'd ask the candidates some fun questions. you know, they used to do that. "is a hot dog a sandwich?"

j.d. vance would stare into the camera and say, "if you're from haiti, any dog can be a sandwich." [ laughter ] but they didn't. they could have used a lot more talk about cat and dog-eating. cbs opted not to fact check the debate live. instead, they put a qr code on the screen which you could scan with your phone. i love that cbs thinks their viewers know how to use a qr code. [ laughter ] their newest show is "matlock." [ laughter ] but we at our show, we are nothing if not derivative. we've come up with qr code of our own. if you scan this code with the camera on your phone, it will take you to a website, iamavoter.com where you can register to vote. and it goes to this page. [ laughter ] i don't know why they added that, but i agree wholeheartedly. also checking fact tonight in realtime was none other than donald trump. "i will be doing a personal play by play of the debate tomorrow

between the brilliant j.d. vance and the highly inarticulate tampon tim walz." [ moans ] "i hope the cognitively challenged lying kamala harris will be listening so she will show the world how she will make up facts. watch truth social tomorrow night. watch truth social. you can barely even read truth social. on the biggest night of j.d. vance's career, his running mate, he's telling his followers, watch me on truth social, commenting on it. here he is, some video of machlt-a-lardo watching from home. the person close toast them, to the -- donald trump, said he's unfit for the highest office. that was senator vance. what we've seen out of -- [ laughter ] >> jimmy: i like what he's done with his bathroom. you know, as civil as the debate was, the troll in chief was not. he didn't like the fact that tim

walz used the word "folks." folks, tampon tip stealing crooked joe's signature catch phrase, sad. he didn't like the idea tim walz was taking notes. why walz is taking so many notes. he needs the notes to keep his brain intact. if that isn't the pumpkin calling the basketball orange, i don't know what is. [ laughter ] trump is now the oldest nominee for president ever. and it's starting to show. i'm not sure he even knows what he's saying anymore. with all these going on, missiles hitting israel today, this is what he was talking about in wisconsin. >> he was teaching -- i don't want to use the names. big stars. and they couldn't -- they were really bad. then one of the producers came in from one of the big studio, mgm, whatever it was. and he saw this guy saying, do it this way. and he's screaming like crazy. right next to his face. as far -- then he said, i don't think the actor can do that. the guy, he said, maybe we could get this guy. but nobody ever heard of him. he was in the military. and it ended up to be one of the

greatest movies because of him. largely because of him. but he was great. how good was that movie, right? doesn't get too much better. >> jimmy: what? are you babbling about? [ laughter and applause ] what the -- by the way, you want to know what he was talking about? i figured it out. i reverse of-engineered it. he was giving a speech at a factory, dame manufacturing. they make metal cages for computer systems. trump went on and on about what movie? "full metal jacket." he heard the word "metal" and went on a roll. [ laughter ] i don't know about the jacket, but he is full mental for sure. [ laughter ] vice president harris has announced that she is in favor of legalizing cannabis on a federal level. [ cheers and applause ] which could explain all the giggling. [ laughter ] but she did this on "all the

smoke" podcast. they say the road through the white house goes through the "all the smoke" podcast, and they're right. that is exciting. we could very well, guillermo, we could be one step closer to having surgeon general william nelson in charge. [ laughter ] j.d. vance is definitely not a pot smoker. his eyes are too blue. if j.d. vance smoked a joint, it would be like looking into two little american flags on his face. [ laughter ] but he seems like he's high all the time. it seems like he ate a fistful of gummies. over the summer, j.d. had a lot of trouble with a doughnut shop. the damage from that was significant, which is why his campaign has made his doughnut shopping a top priority. >> hi. i'm ohio senator j.d. vance. the mainstream media, they want you to think that i'm weird. they call me creepy. cringy. awkward. that i give people something called the ick. they want you to think i can't order a simple doornut.

doughnut. [ bleep ]. but that's ridiculous. follow me. uh -- hello? >> hi. >> great. uh -- uh here? >> a year. >> okay. doughnut. have have. >> yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> which doughnut, though? >> uh -- just -- whatever makes sense. [ laughter ] no pickles. hold the pickles. >> hold -- what -- now, i didn't get that. >> the democrats say i don't

know how to talk to people, but that is just not true. hello, worker. may i sit? >> sure. >> so. how long you been black? >> [ bleep ]. >> i smell pregnant woman. hello, ma'am. when do you spawn? >> that's none of your business. >> and you, sir, you must be the father. >> i'm 9. >> please get away from us. >> i'm sorry. now, your doughnuts are on me. liberals even stoop so low as to suggest that i made love to a couch. how would a man even make love to a couch? would he -- would he take an old wal wallet, lubricate both sides with miracle whip, smoosh it all up in a plastic bag, stuff it in the couch cushions? no way.

so this november, vote for me and president trump to make america normal again. this message was paid for -- >> this message was paid for -- oh, sorry. >> now i do, i interrupted. >> this message was paid for -- >> god, sorry. j.j., [ bleep ] stupid. >> why don't you just do it, man? >> paid for my the pennies i collected inside this bottle. >> i'm donald j. trump, and i regret this decision. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: all right, maybe "j.d." stands for "jelly doughnut," who knows. we've got a big show for you tonight. you know who's on our show tonight? >> lady gaga. >> jimmy: that's right, lady gaga is here. [ cheers and applause ] michigan governor gretchen whitmer is here. and we've got two women who have come face to face with the joker on the show, so stick around. we'll be right back with lady gaga!

[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hi, there, welcome back to the show. tonight, the governor of the great state of michigan, this is her best-selling book, it's called "true gretch." gretchen whitmer is with us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] tomorrow night, you know, a lot of shows, they'll say, we have a big show, we're going to just kind of coast throughout the rest of the week. not us. tomorrow night, we'll be joined by jennifer aniston. diego luna will be here with gael garcia bernal. we'll have music from ben platt and brandy clark. so please join us for that. my first guest is an oscar and grammy award-winning superstar who's swapping her poker face

for joker face in the highly anticipated "joker: folie a deux." it's called "harlequin." later on she'll be singing a song from this album on the snapdragon stage. please welcome lady gaga! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: that's a great-looking grace. >> thank you. >> jimmy: it's very thematic, is that correct to say? >> right after the debate, feels appropriate. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: is that a vintage dress? or does it just look like a vintage dress? >> you know what, i actually designed it. >> jimmy: you designed it yourself? >> i did, yes. >> jimmy: wow. [ cheers and applause ] that's fun, right? >> yeah. scribble, scribble. my child drawings. i go, "i want it to look like this." >> jimmy: how far in advance do you have to design a dress before it actually becomes a dress? >> this is actually just a couple of weeks ago.

everyone did such a great job. they're so talented. it was great. >> jimmy: wow. you do that a lot? >> i do for a lot of my stage shows, yeah, i do. i just love working with creative people. and it's like so fun to put it all together. >> jimmy: yeah. what a great thing to be able to go, i want to do this, then there are people who help you make that happen. most people don't get that in their lives. >> you know what, making records, making movies, making, you know, shows, like you don't do it by yourself. you like work with -- you know that. >> jimmy: yeah, absolutely. yeah, we -- like, we come up with the dumbest ideas. [ laughter ] and then there's a team of super-talented people who bring these dumb, dumb, dumb ideas -- who make them a reality, yeah. yeah, we're working on -- [ cheers and applause ] they're working on it right now. did you -- you're here on debate night. i presume you maybe saw it in the dressing room. and i know that your fiance is a minnesotaen just like tim walz. >> that's right.

>> jimmy: tim walz is his governor, i guess. >> yeah, he's here now with me, but yes. >> jimmy: is he minnesota nice in that way that we know people from minnesota to be? >> oh, yeah. he totally is. and i, like, actually had a wonderful time getting to know, like, all about his life. we were going to visit his dad. and we were, like, four hours away from minnesota. and i said, we should just go, and you can show me around. and we rented a car. we took a road trip. we stopped at culver's. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: he showed you all the places that he hung out at? >> yeah. >> jimmy: were you bored when he did that? >> no. >> jimmy: my wife wants to jump out of the car when i do that. [ laughter ] >> no, it was so, so fun. he took me to a house party. >> jimmy: he did? >> yeah, yeah. and everybody was like hanging out, we ordered pizza. and it was just like -- it was really cool. it was funny. i wasn't drinking that night, and everybody else was. like getting to hear all of his, like, high school stories. [ laughter ] while everyone's drunk. "and then we'll tell you this

one." >> jimmy: did it take a minute for them to warm up to the idea that lady gaga just walked into the house party? >> i -- you know, i don't -- i don't think so. because, you know, they know me as, like, michael's fiancee. >> jimmy: now they do, yeah. [ laughter ] [ cheers ] >> it was just so nice. we were talking about real-life stuff. just hanging out on the porch. and i'm kind of -- i love a porch. >> jimmy: you love a porch yeah. yeah, sounds like it was fun. and he has proposed, done the whole thing, right? >> he did, yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: where did he propose to you? you're so creative. you're so particular. it will be like -- i would become paralyzed if i had to figure out a way to propose to you. >> no, you know, he proposed to me right after my birthday. so my birthday pass, i was like, well, i thought he was going to propose maybe. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: glad he didn't do it on your birthday. sometimes guys will do that as an excuse to only get you one gift. [ laughter ] >> he didn't do that. he actually threw me a beautiful

birthday dinner. then we went on a trip together. we went rock climbing. we've been rock climbing before, which was super fun. >> jimmy: for real? you climb rocks? >> i mean, i do now. i would do anything for love. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: wow. and are you dressing like regular, like patagonia stuff, climbing up the rock with one of those -- >> you know, i design that to. yeah, no. i dress for safety and comfort. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> because you've got to focus. because you've got to get to the top, and you have to go back down. >> jimmy: get back down, yeah, yeah. otherwise you'd still be up there. [ laughter ] >> not good. >> jimmy: you guys climb up, then he proposes to you? >> he didn't propose to me at the top. we -- we climbed up to the top and we looked around. we took some photos. then we went back down. and we were just like walking back to the room. and talking. and he said -- he actually -- very michael to ask me if he could ask me. [ laughter ]

>> jimmy: asked you -- that is minnesota, yeah. >> he wanted to know if it was okay to propose before he proposed. [ laughter ] and i was like, "yes!" "oh, okay." >> jimmy: he went up to the top, and then he didn't do it at the top? >> no. >> jimmy: are you sure this guy's okay? [ laughter ] >> i think it was smart. it was safe. >> jimmy: yeah. >> he had the ring in his backpack, so it was so super cute. he like got into his backpack and pulled it out. >> jimmy: did he get down on his knee? >> no, he didn't. >> jimmy: he didn't? >> you know what, i'm like -- i'm a modern lady, i like what he did. >> jimmy: okay, all right. interesting. wow, very unorthodox. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i guess you have to do something unorthodox like that. i would have done it at the top. [ laughter ] >> well, you know. michael's unpredictable. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: now will you have a big italian wedding? you won't be in minnesota for the wedding, will you? that pizza must have been terrible at that house party, be honest. [ laughter ] >> no, it was not.

it was really good pizza. it was like gourmet pizza. >> jimmy: it was? >> it was. >> jimmy: okay, all right. >> i don't know what we're going to do. we're not exactly sure yet. >> jimmy: who sings at your wedding? >> i don't know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: so much pressure. >> i don't know. >> jimmy: i was a deejay in college. i'd be more than happy -- >> i'm going to take you up on that. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> jimmy: i'm there. i will be there. >> i think that, you know -- we actually talk a lot about just going to a courthouse, just the two of us, and ordering chinese food. [ laughter ] but knowing me us a, it could become -- >> jimmy: you could do both of those things. you could have your real wedding at the courthouse with, you know, noodles or whatever. [ laughter ] and then i'll be there spinning the hits, yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] at the wedding. >> you guys heard it. >> jimmy: only problem is, i will warn you, i really -- my knowledge of music stopped in 1987. [ laughter ]

so there's going to be a lot of new edition. there's going to be -- >> that's excellent. >> jimmy: there's going to be a serious amount of kool & the gang. [ laughter ] you're good with that? >> i'm ready. >> jimmy: sign me up. when we come back, i want to talk about your movie, which i was at the premiere last night. lady gaga is here. her movie is called folie a deux." we'll be right back. ♪ like a relentless weed, moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to break away from uc with tremfya... with rapid relief at 4 weeks. tremfya blocks a key source of inflammation. at one year, many people experienced remission... and some saw 100% visible healing of their intestinal lining. serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections may occur. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms or if you need a vaccine.

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you did it. >> i said no touching. >> you can do anything you want. you're joker. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that is joaquin phoenix and lady gaga in "folie a deux." it opens in theaters on friday. i have to be honest with you. i love superhero movies. i absolutely love them. i don't love musicals. i went to this movie thinking, oh, no, it's a musical. but i thought it was really great. i think it really worked. and you guys -- i mean, it's so imaginative. >> thank you. you know, it's not your typical

musical. it's kind of unhinged and chaotic. >> jimmy: what i didn't know is, i would know all the songs in the musical also. >> that's right. >> jimmy: i didn't know it was going to be like -- ♪ batman's coming ♪ like that kind of thing. >> i wouldn't go into that, though. >> jimmy: does batman know you're in this? because he's going to be upset. >> well, i'll deal with him. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you -- a lot of the songs i thought -- boy, so much research must have gone into which songs. because there's a little something in every song that relates to the joker, whether it be clown or smile or something in there. i was very -- i was a little disappointed that steve miller's "the joker" did not wind up in the song. >> you know, it's a different version. >> jimmy: that would have been maybe a little bit too on the nose. but you recorded an album. this is the album. it's called "h joed [ cheers and applause ]

this is not the soundtrack for the movie. this is inspired by the movie itself. more by your character? by the movie? >> so it's not the soundtrack, it's a concept record. and it's a companion piece to the film. so whether you listen to it before you watch the movie or after, it's just an extension of the world. and i was just -- i was just so inspired by this whole process. and i wanted to do something with the music that's in the movie, but really genre and make it really kind of hard to define, like my character. i think women are super exciting, complex, and can't be pinned down. so that's what harlequin is. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i did want to ask you something. in the movie, you're playing your character, are you -- and you're singing. are you singing differently than you sing? normally? because it seemed like maybe you were holding back a little. is that because the character wouldn't be singing as well as you normally do?

>> lee's not a trained singer. my character is definitely not a singer. i worked a lot on developing her voice and finding what her sound was, what was natural and raw to her. this kind of brokenness. and she's one of those chicks that, like, she's got, like like, an inner storm like a bomb's going to go off in her any moment. >> jimmy: maybe literally, yeah, yeah. >> i wanted it to from there. in the movie i sing in the althoughs of different ways. there's moments of fantasy where arthur's dreaming of her. and some of those moments i kind of wanted him to be a able to imagine that he bagged a babe. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: did you help joaquin phoenix with his singing in the movie? >> i mean, i guess -- i guess so, in a way. you know, i always was trying to encourage him. you know, in the same way that he uncouraged me to just be as raw and spontaneous as possible. i did the same for him. i just said, it can't be wrong if it comes from arthur. >> jimmy: was he intimidated, singing with you? >> i don't -- maybe.

>> jimmy: maybe, yeah. [ laughter ] i mean, why wouldn't he be? >> i was also intimidated working with him at first. >> jimmy: it's probably good that you're intimidated. but you were intimidated because you know he's a different type of person? >> he's just an amazing actor. >> jimmy: incredible actor. >> in every way. he's completely vulnerable. you know, i'm like -- i'm up for it, let's go. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: yeah. you do. you were fantastic. you had a -- i know you had a hit single with bruno mars. it was number one for like five weeks. [ cheers and applause ] >> yeah. >> jimmy: "guy with a smile" is on this record? >> no, it's not, that's its own standalone. >> jimmy: a lot of smiling and a lot of death. >> two things i appreciate. >> jimmy: you're going to do a song for us a little bit later? >> i'm going to do a song that i wrote called "happy mistake." [ cheers and applause ] it's on "harlequin."

it was inspired by the movie. it was inspired by my character, lee. and just also, like, kind of this, like, reflection on my life as a performer. and it's just meant to be, like, a really personal song about how i think sometimes we can go through dark times and feel like happiness is kind of an accident when it happens. >> jimmy: you had a secret show last night. you did -- it was secret, i didn't know about it and i went home after the movie. maybe i wasn't invited to it, now that i'm realizing. [ laughter ] you did the whole album there? >> i did the whole album. actually, michael and i, we conceived of this whole concept together, this record. >> jimmy: you did, you let him conceive of this? >> well, we did -- it did naturally happen together. >> jimmy: was it while you were coming down from the rock? [ laughter ] >> it was, we were like, "then we're going to make a concept album." no, it was like a really special time. we did a secret show that's not a secret anymore. >> jimmy: well, yeah, it's over. >> keep your eyes peeled for

when it's coming out. >> jimmy: all right. oh, good, all right. >> really trying to keep ate secret. >> jimmy: now it's not a secret, i'm sorry. [ laughter ] maybe the word "secret" should have tipped me off. [ laughter ] anyway, this is not a secret. you will be singing for us in just a moment. "joker: folie a deux" opens in theaters on friday. this is the album "harlequin." it is out now. lady gaga, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] we'll be back with gretchen whitmer! same. it off? discover the power of wegovy®. ♪ ♪ with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds. ♪ ♪ and i'm keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i'm reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that's proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hi, there, welcome back. music from lady gaga is on the way. our next guest is the very popular governor of a state that gave us cherries and magic johnson, and she is the author of this bestseller, "true gretch." please welcome governor gretchen whitmer! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: i have to be honest with you, you walked out, i usually will kiss -- oh, wait, is it weird to kiss the governor? [ laughter ]

>> bring it in. there you go. >> jimmy: thank you, okay. [ cheers and applause ] it wasn't weird at all. oh, wait. i did kiss gavin newsom one time. [ laughter ] >> i mean, that's understandable. >> jimmy: how are you? thank you for coming. >> yeah, glad to be here. >> jimmy: did you meet lady gaga? >> very briefly. >> jimmy: you've got like a playlist here of some of your favorite hits. your true gretch playlist. lady gaga's on there. you've seen this playlist, i assume? >> i have. >> jimmy: you didn't have an assistant draw this up for you? >> no, those are some of my favorites. >> jimmy: you have michiganites. eminem. the white stripes. g mash cash, who performed on our show once. i don't see kid rock here. >> no. [ laughter ] no ted nugent either. >> jimmy: i did not see ted nugent irk either. bob seger, there's no trouble with him, is there? >> i love bob seger.

i saw him at a detroit lions game. >> jimmy: did you talk to him? >> he's still awesome. he's the best. >> jimmy: what are you doing in california? >> i came out to see you. there's nothing going on, is there? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you watched the debate, i assume? >> i did. >> jimmy: tim walz is a friend of yours? >> i love tim walz. >> jimmy: how do the governors even know each other? >> tim and i are like tony eveners from wisconsin and j.d. pritser of illinois, we all came together in 2018, won our elections there, worked through the pandemic together. so, we bonded. we're friends for life. >> jimmy: that's what brought you together. >> yeah. >> jimmy: a lot of people, covid is something that -- you guys would have talks and figure out how to handle things and how best to serve your constituents? >> it wasn't just democrats. we were all grappling, trying to build a plane while we're flying it. the guy in the white house was telling people to drink bleach. [ laughter ] we were trying to figure it out what to do to keep people safe.

>> jimmy: i was so mad at him when i had my first glass of bleach. [ laughter ] >> did it make your teeth white? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: in the book, i was reading your book. there's a story about your first debate. and it sounds -- it sounds made up. it's so crazy. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you're out like knocking on doors, right? >> i was knocking on doors. it was a warm -- it was, you know, august, early all, late july. really hot. knocking doors. a little sweaty. wearing a button-down. my campaign manager comes flying up. i could hear his car from a ways away. campaign managers notoriously have beater cars. he's got all this literature. "get in the car!" what is happening? i thought there was some weird crisis going on. i jump in the car. "the debate is not tomorrow, it's right now!" [ laughter ] and so i had to go debate sweaty, you know, wearing -- not wearing a suit, when is what i would have liked to have worn. >> jimmy: did you fire him before or after the debate? [ laughter ]

>> i kept him on. he was grateful. >> jimmy: you must have been pretty relaxed to not know what day the debate was. >> he was a young man and young men -- >> jimmy: do you think tim walz -- you think he's feeling positive right now? relieved that it's over? >> i think he's feeling good. i think he's relieved it's over. everyone is. i think he did really well. you know, j.d. vance, was a better debater than donald trump. >> jimmy: for sure. >> donald trump could have taken some lessons from him. i think walz brought it home. i think he delivered the "w." [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: yeah, he was saying -- he supposedly told the harris campaign, i'm not a good debater. and i wonder if he was just kind of playing that up or if he really felt that way. >> you know, i think tim is a humble guy. he's from minnesota. >> jimmy: uh-huh? >> you know, i mean, that was a debate between two midwesterners. i mean, it was very, you know -- >> jimmy: it was refreshingly --

as i was telling the studio audience, i think it was good for america and bad for me. [ laughter ] you have a very positive attitude. you go in in that way. you call yourself the happy warrior. is that something you came up with or someone else did? >> someone else did. i was getting ready for my first debate as governor. emily's list sent me a debate coach. he said, the happy warrior always wins the debate. his big tip was, go to the podium right when you get there, put a big smiley face on your notes so you remember to be happy. most women who are told to smile, you know, it elicits the oppos opposite. i'm not going to do that, but i went to a kevin hart show in detroit. one of the guys who opened for him, nyam lynn, told the story about how women are empowered. it was a hilarious "shark week" story. >> jimmy: "shark week"? >> "shark week mf" was basically the call to action. it's about, women today are so

much more empowered. used to be back in the day when a woman was having their period, she wouldn't want to tell you. she'd be demure and say something like, "aunt flo is in town." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: right, right, yeah. >> now when a woman's having her period, you're more empowered. "i want to come over and see you." "you're not coming over, it's shark week, mother --" [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> jimmy: now it makes sense. your grandmother seemed like a pretty great person. and she taught you a lesson that -- i don't really really think my grandmother taught me any lessons, other than "finish your meatballs." she taught you to always come up with something nice, to say something nice about somebody, or think something nice about somebody. is that possible with somebody like donald trump? is there something nice that you can honestly say about him? >> well, there is one quality that he has that is really remarkable. and he knows how to feed into

what people are feeling. he can read it and feed into it. he doesn't use that skill for good, unfortunately. he feeds anger against other people. but he can read what's going on with someone, and that i think is something that is -- could be a positive trait used for good. >> jimmy: yeah, okay. that was almost a positive thing. [ laughter ] your parents are a mixed marriage politically. >> yes. >> jimmy: would they argue? is that something that -- is that what kind of inspired you to try to bring both parties together? >> you know, my dad worked for george romney. mitt romney's dad was the governor of michigan back in the day. my dad worked for him. he was a republican. my mom worked for an attorney general for 40 years, frank j. kelly, democrat attorney general. and you know, they would have debates, but it always -- if it centered around values, we could find common ground. this was before both parties were what they are today. and so it was a lot easier, i think, to have robust debates on

facts. not based on everyone's individual preferences that are fed through social media. it was a different time. >> jimmy: do you think we can ever go back to that time? do you think that there's a path forward as far as working together goes? >> yes! there has to be. [ cheers and applause ] there has to be, yeah. >> jimmy: because i feel like there isn't. [ laughter ] >> well. i mean, we need to get you some therapy. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you don't know the half of it. >> i'm cultivating your happy warrior. >> jimmy: my happy warrior needs a little cheering up. well, thank you for being here. this is the book. it's called "true gretch." it's governor gretchen whitmer, everybody, from michigan. [ cheers and applause ] thank you for being here. we'll be right back with lady gaga! >> lou: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by

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snapdragon. at the heart of the devices you love. >> jimmy: thanks to governor gretchen whitmer and haley joel osment. apologies to matt damon. "harlequin" is out now. here with the song "happy mistake," lady gaga! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm acting in this play of comedy with tragic words ♪ ♪ the audience was smiling cheering on a scene absurd ♪ ♪ i can try to hide

behind the makeup but the show must go on ♪ ♪ i feel so crazy my head is filled with broken mirrors ♪ ♪ so many i can't look away i'm in a bad way ♪ ♪ if i could fix the broken pieces ♪ ♪ then i'd have a happy mistake a lonely disposition ♪ ♪ portraits of a

strung-out girl ♪ ♪ how'd i get so addicted to the love of the whole world ♪ ♪ i could try to hide behind the makeup but the show must go on ♪ ♪ i feel so crazy my head is filled with broken mirrors ♪ ♪ so many i can't look away i'm in a bad way ♪ ♪ if i could fix the broken pieces ♪

♪ then i'd have a happy mistake ♪ ♪ if i could bottle up a sunny day ♪ ♪ so brilliantly it'd wash away the sad mistakes ♪ ♪ and i could hold my heart in a safe place ♪ ♪ all i need to breathe is one happy mistake ooh ♪ ♪ ooh-ah

make my happy mistake ♪ [ cheers and applause ] this is nightline. tonight matchup in manhattan. >> we need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by kamala harris's policies. >> donald trump made a promise, and i'll give you this. he kept it. he took folks to mar-a-lago. he said, you're rich as hell. i'm gonna give you a tax cut. >> vice presidential contenders tim walz and jd vance facing off in their only debate before t

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